Monday, November 9, 2009

Adrian Gonzalez for Derrek Lee?
This offseason, the Cubs have several decisions to make that aren’t centered around Milton Bradley. One superstar in particular is the most intriguing, and that player is Derrek Lee. Derrek has had a solid career with the Cubs since coming over from Florida for Hee Seop Choi, but his contract is expiring and it’s extremely unlikely he’ll be resigned. So why not try and trade him and see what you can get? I realize he has a “no-trade” clause, but I think Lee is the kind of player and person to waive the clause since it’s what the team wants.
Another player that should be on the market is Carlos Zambrano. Carlos could be a heck of a trading piece for the Cubs if they wanted to cut payroll. “Big Z” is supposed to make 17.85 million dollars next year, and that’s a pretty steep price for a pitcher that frankly has not lived up to that contract so far. He’s been up and down, losing velocity on that sinker of his, while still not understanding how to pitch in certain situations and not being able to locate any sort of breaking ball consistently. Throw in a couple DL stints, and some comments about retiring after 2012, and not doing his in-between start work and you have a recipe for disaster. With all that said- Carlos still has ridiculous upside and it’s not out of the realm of possibility for certain major league teams who need pitching see him as the ace he isn’t.
If you head west, the San Diego Padres and new GM Jed Hoyer have a major decision to make as well. Adrian Gonzalez is going to be looking at a massive deal after his 4 year 9 million dollar bargain deal is up after the 2011 season. The Padres are a small market team that probably will not be able to sign him to a deal like Paul Konerko’s or Derrek Lee’s or even better. Do they hold onto him? Do they simply offer him arbitration and hope he declines and collect 2 comp picks for the 2012 draft? Do they trade him now as his value is at the highest? Well if I’m Jed Hoyer- I would definitely look into trading him if you won’t be able to put pieces around him due to no money. Especially with teams having bidding wars over him as he would be the most sought out player not named Roy Halladay this winter. Boston is definitely going to be in the talks seeing the bridge that was built this winter between the two teams. But who else could give the prospects needed while being able to pay him the money he’ll want and deserve?
The Giants are a team on the rise, and they arguably have one of the best pitching staffs in baseball. They have Tim Lincecum who should be a 2 time “Cy Young”-winner this winter, Matt Cain had an outstanding season and is still unbelievably young, and they have “uber prospect” Madison Bumgarner on the way up. Brian Wilson anchors the bullpen. The problem the giants have is simply they can’t hit. Sure they have the panda, and they might bring back Freddy Sanchez, but they’ll likely lose Bengie Molina while bringing up Buster Posey, but there isn’t any sort of power hitter in that lineup. Trading for Adrian Gonzalez won’t be possible seeing as they play in the same division- so where do they turn?
If you read my Jose Reyes article, you’ll already understand why the Mets should trade him. So let me tell you about the series of deals that could take place this winter, and how it helps every team involved.
Deal 1- The Chicago Cubs trade first basemen Derrek Lee to the San Francisco Giants for 2B Nick Noonan, RHP Henry Sosa, 1B Kyle Nicholson, RHP Kevin Pucetas. Why does this make sense? The Cubs are able to cut payroll while getting 4 young players to add to their growing system. They also get the value for a guy they’ll likely lose at seasons end. The Giants add the power hitting, middle of the order first basemen they need without giving up they’re best prospects. They’ll also have a chance at resigning Lee as he’s a California native.
Deal 2- The Chicago Cubs trade Carlos Zambrano (while eating 3 million of his salary this year) to the Mets for SS Jose Reyes. The Cubs are able to further cut they’re high payroll while adding the speed and lead-off hitter they need. Reyes is only making about 9 million for next year and is still young while being able to move Ryan Theriot to second base to platoon with Mike Fontenot. That will allow Lou to use Jeff Baker in a “Mark DeRosa” type role. The Mets get that monster pitcher that would suit they’re big pitchers ball park. It will serve them well as they now have a go to guy behind Johan Santana. Throw in the health of the rest of the superstars on that team and they could now contend for the east. Well- if the Mets and Cubs make these deals- what do u do about the positions? Continue reading.
Deal 3- The Chicago Cubs sign LHP Randy Wolf to a 1 year 5.75 million dollar deal.
Deal 4- The Chicago Cubs resign Rich Harden to a 1 year 2 million dollar deal with incentives that can make it a 5 million dollar deal. These deals only cost the cubs about 2.5 million dollars in they’re Payroll for 2010, while lowering it for 2011 and 2012.
Deal 5- The New York Mets sign Orlando Cabrera to a 1 year 4 million dollar deal. It’s a simple stop gap move and it’s not a bad one while waiting for Wilmer Castro or Reese Havens to emerge.
Deal 6- The Chicago Cubs trade RHP Jeff Samardzjia (if he waives no trade clause), RHP Henry Sosa, SS Hak Ju Lee, 1B Jake Fox, RHP Chris Archer to the San Diego Padres for 1B Adrian Gonzalez. The Cubs have now successfully replaced Derrek Lee with a younger, more powerful first basemen whose making way less money while not giving up Starlin Castro or Josh Vitters. Unfortunately they had to give up Chris Archer whose going to be a good one, but this is a trade they have to make. The Padres get well compensated for the loss of they’re best player, but it was the necessary move unfortunately. Until baseball inputs a salary cap- smaller market teams will a lot of the time lose they’re stars. That’s the way the game is right now.
Obviously, the series of deals that I outlined would take a ton of work to get accomplished. But the facts remain the same. These teams have some serious questions to answer about all the players above- and this is definitely a realistic possibility. These players will be talked about in trade talks this offseason, and usually where theres smoke- there’s fire.










These deals are not in the realm of possibility, the Derrek Lee one yes I can see that working out, however Zambrano (a struggling ace pitcher who has temperament issues) for easily one of the best infielders in the game never going to happen that’s a pipe-dream. speaking of which also actually acquiring Adrian Gonzalez one of the best young first basemens in the game we couldn’t get either Reyes or Gonzo without giving up Vitters or Castro in the deal another pipe-dream never gonna happen. Also with Zambrano he also has a no trade clause and has already been vocal about saying he wouldn’t wave it.
and I say that despite Jose Reyes being injured pretty much the entire season I still don’t think Big Z is worth Jose Reyes considering his upside
Carlos Zambrano has also stated how much he dislikes the Chicago media. So it isn’t out of the realm of possibility to believe he would waive his no trade clause depending on the team he goes to. The Mets need a guy they can plug in behind Johan. They also need a corner outfielder. I doubt they’ll be able to sign Bay, they’ll give Holliday a run, but how are they going to get the pitcher? Free agency is a goofy thing. You never know who will end up where. They can easily put Jose Reyes into a trade and attract the guy needed to compliment Johan Santana.
As for Adrian Gonzalez- The Cubs system has improved mightily over the last couple years. Our talent is young, and if you could package a couple of the prospects you get from the Lee trade- you MIGHT not have to deal Castro or Vitters. And if they want one of them- why not trade Josh Vitters? Who knows if he becomes an all star at the major league level. Your getting an all star 1st basemen back in the deal for years to come. That however is an argument for a later date my friend. We do appreciate the post.
Wow. Great article. Great Insight. I dont know if ne of these things will happen, but it definitely gave me something to think about!
I see your point about Zambrano still don’t see him waiving the no trade clause, but We need Vitters because the fact Aramis is getting older and his nagging injuries are taking a toll on him and who knows how much longer he will last and pretty soon we could use a prospect like Vitters coming into place for Ramirez, I don’t see Jake Fox making a good permanent 3rd basemen I think Fox is a prospect we should look to trade away to an AL team looking for a decent young DH but yeah I think we definitely need Vitters as an insurance to Aramis because if we lose Vitters we’ll have a huge gap at third
As far as Vitters goes, we don’t know 100% if he’ll be the future at 3B. If he is- and the cubs don’t bring any one in after Lee- look for Aramis to head across the diamond to first. Remember David Kelton? He was supposed to be this amazing third basemen of the future- and he flamed out fast. Nothing is every a sure thing when your talking about 21 year olds.
Who knows if Z will be waive his NT clause. The point I was really making was- if the cubs want to cut payroll…he’s the guy I look at. He’s making cy young type money without the cy young. IMO, you have to at least explore the potential and see where his worth is in the eyes of other teams.
Why don’t the cubs trade sorryano instead?????
There’s no way they’ll be able to move his contract and it’s pointless to trade him and eat the contract. You’d have a huge hole in left field while paying Soriano to play elsewhere. Hopefully he’s healthy next year and bounces back.
Sorryano sux tho. He needs to go. Hendry shuld be fired!!!! They should bring in someone like the red sox guy. That would probably help.
Firing Hendry would be a terrible move for the organization. Hendry has changed the mindsight and the philosophy of the Cubs organization since he took over. He’s been the most successful front office officer since the early 1900′s. 2009 wasn’t on Hendry completely. It was on everyone in the organization and he deserves and has earned the right to right the ship.